Tuesday, June 17, 2008

Phase 4 - Interior Fiberglass Work - Rear Flotation Tanks

Ok, I know we all love grinding, sanding, scraping, and stripping paint. But let's face it - there are tasks in this project that are supposed to be more fun. One of the primary reasons I bought this boat was to learn how to work with fiberglass. So it's time to learn dang it!

During the week of 6/9/2008 we began to look at how to construct two new rear flotation tanks for the boat. These would replace the previous installed flotation; a block of Styrofoam wrapped with part of an old sail. While this previous method was certainly functional and met the requirements of the class rules, it lacked the style, grace, and elegance that I'm looking for. *Grin*

So we spent some time measuring the rear flotation tanks on my wife's boat and then brought those dimensions back to see how it laid out on my boat. We then constructed a paper template of the tank to test the layout and fit. Once we were satisfied with that, we transferred the template to cardboard and checked that fit as well. As part of this process we realized a slight difference in how the D&M and Clark manufacturers constructed the stern of the thistle. On my wife's boat (D&M), the wood piece the traveler attaches to does not come down below the level of the rear grate. On my boat (Clark), that piece of wood comes down further, two to three inches below the level of the rear grate. So my air tanks will be flatter as a result since I don't want to attach the fiberglass air tank to the wood. Even with that slight difference I will still have the required volume in each tank.

Once we were happy with the fit of the cardboard mock-up, we then transferred those shapes to some 1/2" MDF that I had. I used a jigsaw to cut those shapes out and then cleaned them up on the band saw. We then used wood glue and a combination of screws and finish nails to put them together. We then added support pieces to the edge of the molds to form the flange that will be needed to provide the attachment point to the boat. So now we have a mold that when fiberglass is laid in on the inside will produce a perfectly sized flotation tank, complete with attachment flange. However, we're still not there yet. Although the MDF is very smooth, it is still not smooth enough so as to not show the MDF surface pattern when the gel coat is applied over it. To create a perfectly smooth surface on the inside of the mold for the gel coat to cover, we lined the mold with tile board. This product is available at your local home center and is used as an inexpensive shower surround finish (in place of ceramic tile). It's basically an 1/8th inch thick piece of fiberboard with a thin, hard, smooth finish. So, using our cardboard patterns, we marked and cut out the three pieces needed for the mold. We used 3M No. 77 spray adhesive to attach each piece to the inside of the mold. Now we have a smooth bearing surface for the gel coat. We're finished now, right? Wrong! Yes, we do have a very nice looking mold, but it has on 90 degree square corners. That's not very functional when trying to lay the cloth into the mold. We need nice rounded corners for the cloth to lie against, both for the inside corners as well as the outside corners where we transition to the flange.

Rear Air Tanks


On the first mold we made I was concerned that we wouldn't be able to use a router and round over bit to make a nice smooth curve because I was afraid that the tile board would fracture and splinter. So Bruce didn't argue with me (I wish he had!) and we attacked those edges with a rasp and file. What a mistake that was. I succeeded in making a nice rounded over edge but it just took too long. Then because it was so rough, we had to spend a lot of time applying wood filler and sanding to create the smooth transition we were looking for. On the second mold we used a router and 1/2" round over bit to route the outside corners and it worked very well. The tile board did not splinter and we ended up with a very smooth edge. We still had to do a little bit of hand shaping and filling since the router can't go all the way into the inside corners, but it was much simpler than on the other one.

So now our mold has nice rounded corners where it makes the transition from the vertical surface to the flange, but we still have the issue of how to deal with the inside corners. We discussed several different ways of doing this including using wood filler, drywall compound, or modeling clay. In the interest of time we decided to go with a fast drying, light weight, drywall crack filler. While in theory this was a good idea, the material was difficult to work with and was finicky about sticking to the very smooth tile board. We made it work but it was hard to get it as smooth as we wanted. We have since had a conversation with someone who does this sort of thing for a living and they use modeling clay for this purpose. The next time we do this that is what we'll use. It's soft enough to mold easily but hard enough to allow you to work it into the corners and smooth it out with either your fingers or simple tools.

After we got the corners and edges the way we wanted them, and everything was as smooth as we could get it, Bruce applied several coats of lacquer over all the exposed wood. We are now ready to wax the interior surfaces with Meguiars mold release wax. That's the final step before actually laying up the fiberglass and resin.

Monday, June 9, 2008

Phase 3 - Chemical Warfare - Part II

This weekend was the beginning of final preparation to the inside of the hull. As you can see from previous posts, I have sanded off a lot of the interior paint and tested out a couple of different strippers for removal of the remaining finish. While doing this I exposed something like 4 or 5 separate coats of paint. It appears that the base coat is red (either that or they used red resin!), or I'm just seeing the first coat of gelcoat from the inside of the boat. I'm not at all sure that one of these coats of paint (the most recent) wasn't house paint! It appears to have been applied with a brush while the person doing the painting was under the influence! At least that's the way it looked to me.

Since my previous testing had indicated that the old standby stripper, methylene chloride, worked best (i.e. the quickest), I set to work with that product. I don't think brands here are very important. The key is to just get a product that has the highest concentration of methylene chloride you can find. Not many list this information on the label so you may have to consult the Material Safety Data Sheet (MSDS) for the product to find out the concentration. Don't just rely on marketing or descriptive terms on the can - things like Professional Grade, Premium, etc., can be misleading - get the MSDS and see exactly what you are getting for your money.

And a note about safety - make sure you follow the directions on the can you purchase - wear gloves, eye goggles, and clothing you don't care about. Also make sure to do this outside and keep any ignition sources away from you. Some strippers contain methanol as well as methylene chloride so flammability is an issue. You may also want to wear a full or half face respirator with Organic Vapor cartridges. I'm a chemical engineer by training so I pay attention to this stuff - its' important - you should pay attention to it too. No boat is worth injury or death. Take your time and be careful.

Strong recommendation: Have several good scrapers handy, small as well as large, and keep them sharp with a file. This task is going to wear you out and you want to get the maximum effect for your effort. Don't waste it fighting paint/epoxy filler with a dull scraper.

Here are some pictures of the progress I made over the two days of the weekend:

Chemical Warfare


In several of the photos you will notice damage to sections of the glass. It appears to us that the two longitudinal stiffeners were added after the boat was constructed. We believe this to be true because in places the fiberglass covering the wood strips is not even stuck down. It didn't stick because the fiberglass was applied over paint. I have no idea why someone would do this. Because the glass was loose in several places, it was probably not really providing all that much stiffening. We will have to grind out these places and install new glass. In addition, several of the rounded stiffeners had holes in them. We'll have to patch these as well.

At this point Bruce thinks that I've got enough paint removed that we can move on to the fun stuff! Fiberglass fabrication and repair here we come!

I'm going to make a list of areas that need repairing and just tackle them one by one. Stay tuned.

Timeline

This will serve as a kind of time sheet for the effort associated with this project. I will edit this on an ongoing basis as I move through the process.

5/21/2008 - Date of Purchase
5/24/2008 - 3 hrs - remove hardware
5/25/2008 - 4 hrs - begin sanding interior paint
5/27/2008 - 1 hr - continue sanding interior paint
5/28/2008 - 1 hr - continue sanding interior paint
6/2/2008 - 1 hrs - begin chemical stripping of interior paint using West Marine Enviro-friendly paint (poor results, but I left it on too long and it dried out - even while covered with kraft paper - directions say to leave it on no more than 6 hrs - I left it 24 hrs due to time constraints)
6/3/2008 - 2 hr - apply another application of the West Marine product and let it sit for 2 hrs. Then test some methylene chloride based product as well.
6/7/2008 - 7 hrs - begin chemical stripping of interior paint with Methylene Chloride based stripper - this stuff works - used a power washer to assist with this task)
6/8/2008 - 4 hrs - continue chemical stripping of interior paint
6/9/2008 - 6/13/2008 - 5 hrs - I decided it was time to do something that was more fun than stripping paint. This week we started to design and construct the two new rear flotation tanks. Made paper forms, then transferred those to cardboard, then transferred those to MDF
6/14/2008 - 6/15/2008 - 12 hrs - Began to construct the wooden molds. Purchased the needed polyester resin, fiberglass cloth, fiberglass mat, and layering gel coat. See the detailed description of this task, and the pitfalls associated with it.
Week of 6/16/2008 - 3 hrs - Didn't have a lot of time to work on things this week. Mostly spent the time getting the mold corners smooth (both inside and out). Bruce then applied a number of coats of spray lacquer to things so we'd be ready to wax and go.
6/21 - 6/22/2008 - No work this weekend - It's Reggae Regatta weekend at the club! Our boys raced their Opti's, Marian raced her Laser, and I worked on the committee boats. The family brought home much treasure! A 1st and a 3rd for the boys in their Opti class, and a 2nd for Marian in the Laser!
Week of 6/23/2008 - 8 hrs - Spent two hard evenings grinding more paint out in preparation for fiberglassing. Ground around the keelson area to removed loose glass and fill holes. Then filled in those areas. Then constructed a foam core stack and attached it to the keelson to raise it back to the level it should be based upon the plans. See details concerning this process.

Phase 3 - Chemical Warfare

On June 2 I purchased some eco-friendly paint stripper from West Marine. I really was looking for the Dumond Chemical Company product, Marine Safety Strip II, but I was only able to find that via mail order at Defender.com. So I settled for what West Marine had in stock. I purchased a quart of the product and was just totally horrified at the cost - $34 - FOR A QUART. I did not have high hopes for the effectiveness of this product so I was wondering how many thousands of dollars this was going to cost me in stripper! Anyway, I took it on home and figured I'd give it a try. The directions specified a dwell time of 2 - 6 hours but since I was starting this after work, I didn't have that much time. So I cut some strips of kraft paper, applied the thick paste as the directions described, and covered it with the kraft paper. I then left it until the next day.

Here are the pictures of this process:

Stripper Testing


The results were not good. When I peeled the paper off the next day, some of the paint came off on the paper, but the majority was still stuck to the boat. Some of it was wrinkled up and could be scraped off, but most appeared not to be affected. To be fair, I had not followed the directions. So, I decided to try again, using the rest of the container this time. I spread the material onto the same surfaces and left it about 2 hours. During that time frame it began to wrinkle the top layer of paint, and it appeared to soften the underlying layer, but it did not remove anything like the advertised "multiple layers at one time."

At this point I brought out the big guns. My old favorite, methylene chloride. I poured some of this material down onto the interior finish and it was wrinkling the paint within about 2-3 minutes. Within 15 minutes it had removed the top layer or two and softened the remaining layers enough so they could be scraped off. Although it required a lot of elbow grease, this was definitely the way to go.

Better living through chemistry!

Friday, June 6, 2008

Phase 2 - Hardware Removal

Ok - now that I have a picture record of everything, it's time to start removing all the hardware so I can get on with the sanding and repairs. I pulled all the hardware off and put it in individual bags, trying to keep similar parts together. It's clear now that I will be replacing a lot of this hardware but I suspected that once I saw the boat.

Once I got all the hardware off I then set about removing the forward and rear grates. This involved drilling out the plugs on various screws and then cleaning out the screw heads so we could get a grip on them with a screwdriver. Unfortunately some of these plugs were put in with epoxy and didn't want to come out. With all the hardware off and the grates removed, I was able to take a good look at things. Some of the wood in the grates had been replaced since there was some Mahogany mixed in with Teak. In addition there was significant decay around the centerboard trunk since previous owners had extended the front grate supports all the way to the bottom of the boat. As a result they stayed wet and eventually decayed.

At some point in time this boat had taken a hard hit on the port side, just forward of the front grate. The rail in this area has been spliced, but the individual strips of wood were not matched up and the scarf joint was done almost as a 2:1 instead of the recommended 12:1 scarf joint. In addition, they didn't even make the new strips the same width as the old strips, so they don't even line up! This will have to be removed and replaced. The rail on this boat is made up of two inner strips that are mahogany while the two outer strips are oak.

Phase 1 - Documentation

The first step of this project is to document everything about the boat. I want to make sure that I have evidence of where all the hardware was located in case I need to review that when it comes time to put it all back. So without further fanfare here are the initial pictures of the boat and trailer.

Thistle #2687 Restoration


Here are some pictures of the centerboard:

Centerboard


and here are some pictures of the forward and aft grates:

Front and Rear Grates - Initial Conditions